Saturday, September 28, 2019

GHT Tap & Die: Looks like I should do nothing with it

Dunno what to do with this, so I'm writing it down so I don't lose track of the links.

From the HomeOwnersHub forum, from 2010: What is the exact tap & die size for a USA garden hose thread (it's not NH):

From Terra Arcane:
I don't see how you could make these with just a tap or die, as they involve a pilot, a relief, and a different lead-in thread angle, not just threads. Google ".75-11.5NH tap die" = 0 hits."

From MonkeyButler:
http://www.widell.com/popular%20special%20supplement%2004-09-01.pdf
Scroll down to 3/4-11-1/2. You will see a garden hose size tap listed. Don't know about the die though.

MonkeyButler's link, from 9 years ago, doesn't work. But http://www.widell.com does work.
I looked around a little. Under SERVICES on their menu is CATALOGUES.
I got it. The file is named catalog_wid.pdf

Page 1: Contents

Page 2: Popular Special Taps

On page 14 I come to "3/4-11 1/2 garden hose 6fl" and "call for pricing".



http://www.widell.com/index.html#

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worth another look maybe:
https://www.finehomebuilding.com/forum/garden-hose-thread-size
"put 2 washers in a 3/4 female hose fitting they will seal to a clean 3/4 NPT."
"For a temporary setup where there isn't much mechanical force on the joint (and a little leakage is tolerable), you can put male hose threads into female pipe with some teflon tape."


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no shit! Home Depot:
$36.60
"Set: Contains taper, plug and bottom taps."

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Drill-America-Garden-Hose-Threading-Tap-3-4-in-to-11-1-2-in-NGH-High-Speed-Steel-DWTNGH3-4TAP/308821680?cm_mmc=Shopping-B-F_D25T-G-D25T-25_1_HAND_TOOLS-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA-NA-NA-HandTools_PLA%7c71700000034127224%7c58700003933021546%7c92700031755124844&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi97qhPD-5AIVA-iGCh03NArIEAQYAiABEgID0PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

but "for this tap we recommend a 63/64" drill bit"
yeah, nfg for tapping the inlet end of wye connectors with the swivel nuts broken off.

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Suppose I round off the outside of the inlet end, and tap it for NPT ...
then buy a brass adapter to go from NPT female to GHT female ...
then put a quick-connect fitting into it.
I get swivel from the QC
and I get QC
and I get to use all these damned broken wyes and shutoffs I'm gathering...
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plumbingsupply.com offers "3/4" FHT Swivel x 3/4" FIPS" for $1.54 apiece.
https://www.plumbingsupply.com/pvc-by-size.html#hose
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now... could I actually cut threads in a plastic part?
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Okay, I can buy a 3/4" FIPS
so I would need to make a 3/4" MIPS at the inlet end of the wye fitting.
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For $34.99 at Harbor Freight I can get a
"1/2 in. - 1 in. Ratcheting Pipe Threader Set"
and
"Cut accurate threads in 1/2 in. - 1 in. pipe"
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but first I would have to make the inlet end smooth and round.
It has two full-circle ridges on it now that were supposed to hold the swivel nut in place.
so I need... a lathe or the equivalent.
and what size should the OD be? ...same as 3/4" threaded pipe...
1.050 maybe (?)
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this one looks nice, from Amazon, $56.98
https://www.amazon.com/FOONEE-Portable-Woodworking-Resistant-Standard/dp/B07V5L6TFP/ref=asc_df_B07V5L6TFP/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=366336020149&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15275114182161493519&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003708&hvtargid=pla-818321105506&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=77662751433&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=366336020149&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15275114182161493519&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9003708&hvtargid=pla-818321105506
Not out of reach, at least.
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DIY?


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